Listed with this week’s sale is a limited time offer to get tier 7 stat tomes for your characters. These are not on sale, just a special limited time listing.
Added with Rise of Isengard we have 6 tiers of stat tomes currently in the store. This is a an extra 10 to the stat of your choice for a total available of adding 70 to your stat through the store.
Tomes must be added in tier order. Meaning you won’t even see these tier 7 offerings unless you’ve used the previous 6 tomes.
Like the other tiers of stat tomes, tier 7 tomes are 295 Turbine Points each. They are not included in the tome bundles you find in the store.
The regular tomes (1-6) have a chance of dropping in game but are a bit rare. I don’t know if these special tier 7 will drop or are being treated as a store exclusive. My guess would be no but cannot be certain.
These items are a limited time and will leave the store on January 26, 2012.
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January 5, 2012 at 9:55 pm
This is the real reason why they removed stat caps – to sell more stat tomes
January 5, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Yep! Undoubtedly.
January 6, 2012 at 2:18 am
These looked more attractive pre-Isengard than they do now.
When we get to level 90, and the average person has 3000 in their main stat, will people still buy these? I’d like to think that sometime soon Turbine will alter how many points Stat Tomes actually give. Turn them into a percentage, or one point for each four character levels, or anything that can scale in some way.
Ten is a number with a diminishing value. :/
January 6, 2012 at 3:30 am
even presently at level 75, it is easy to get over 1000 in your class’s primary stat without raid gearing or stat tomes at all. And the higher you get in a stat the more diminishing returns kicks in on the effects of it. So its a sale to pay 295tp to get roughly 1% more of a stat that matters to your class, and it will have far less than a 1% difference on the sub-stats that are derived from that main stat.
To me, the only value in these stat tomes are for brand new alts around level 20 or so.(you can only buy one stat tome per 4 levels your character has earned, up to the max on tomes) At that level the difference is huge and the effect is very noticeable, but the difference slowly scales down as one levels, till you get to max level and it no longer means much of anything.
January 6, 2012 at 3:33 am
sub-stats meaning the stats that matter which you are trying to raise in the first place. (melee offense, tactical offense, crit chance, morale, etc.)
January 6, 2012 at 11:21 am
I’d say they are much more useful on non-main stats (vit for non-tanks, fate or agi for non-hunter/burgs, etc) that you don’t get much of anyway.
January 6, 2012 at 5:19 pm
That’s true, its a more significant upgrade on those non-main stats
January 12, 2012 at 5:47 am
This was also said so in the recent podcast episode.
But is it really meaningful to increase other stats than e.g. fate, will and vitality for a Runekeeper?
I had bought tier 1-6 for the aforementioned stats when my RK still was very young, and it helped me a lot. Now at Lvl 54 with fate and will over 500 each, I will probably not buy tier 7 of these stats.
But with my might and agility both being very low (<100), does it help to boost these stats? Will that improve my defenses or anything?
January 6, 2012 at 4:18 am
I already saw VII or VIII Might ingame before chrismas, so VII should also drop with 0,001% chance
January 6, 2012 at 8:27 am
How have you estimated those chances?
January 6, 2012 at 10:35 am
The estimate seems to be close based on my experience lol
January 6, 2012 at 10:34 am
I saw this on the LOTRO Facebook page and people were really upset… but then I realized it wasn’t even for this specific item, it was for the store in general. A lot of comments on how the store sucks, how Turbine spends more time on the store than bugs (I’m sure the teams don’t even really overlap), how there’s “nothing to do” in the game (we just got a sizable update — but I guess if you don’t spend anything there isn’t much new — obviously! lol)
I like the game, but I think I’m just going to unlike their Facebook page. So many people on it are such downers, I’m not even sure why they play it still.
January 7, 2012 at 10:15 am
Because it’s FTP. And when they can’t have it all free, they have to complain. Bah! to them, I say! B A H!!!!
=D
January 7, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Bah?
Turbine PROMISED that they would not sell advantage in the Store. They lied.
Stat Tomes are DEFINITELY advantage, and one that you cannot realistically gain in-game. Presumably these things CAN drop as loot in game, BUT in all the time I’ve played since Stat Tomes were introduced, (and I’ve played A LOT – including raid content) I have NEVER seen one drop. Ever! That’s effectively NOT available in game.
January 8, 2012 at 8:15 am
I completely agree.
January 12, 2012 at 5:50 am
I agree, too. It is definetely a character improvement – different from the boosts just speeding up things.
Especially, since you can buy them at early levels, where you will never have the chance to earn them in-game. Are the stat tomes from a drop tradable, btw. ?
January 12, 2012 at 7:16 am
They are. Take a look at your server’s auction house, you can probably find some there (for outrageous prices).
January 9, 2012 at 2:16 pm
The droprate ingame can be miniscule for them to happily say that the store isnt a pay to win scenario for stat tomes. From a players point of view it’s easy to see that it is a pay to win item.
I can only recall seeing one stat tome drop, but I was in a group that had some loot drama over it. Kin leader pulling rank over a member who rightfully stood their ground and ended up getting kicked.
January 10, 2012 at 12:26 am
I am sorry but I have to disagree with those who say that this is a “pay-to-win” service. At the moment, depending on what type of player you are, wether you go for more balanced builds, like to min-max, raid, go solo, or whatever – you are undoubtably going to have lots of numbers in probably one or two stats. Lets say, for example, you are a guardian sporting a round number of 1500 vitality. Now lets say this guardian decides to go to the store and buy all seven vitality tomes. At 295 tp per tome this adds up to 2,065, or around 20$. Now this may sounds like a good idea, or a bad one if you think this is pay-to-win, but lets look at what benefits you actually receive. Taking our guardians vase vitality number and adding the seven vitality tomes will give this guardian a total of 1570 vitality. This turns out to be a 4.57% increase to the stat. Now you tell me? Is this going to make or make or break the game for you? Does this look like paying to win, or paying to pay? When that guardian starts taking on raids and that 1500 becomes a 2000, that 4.67% increase is now a 3.5% increase, and that 20$ is looking a lot better in your pocket than out of it. The fact is, with the amount of stats that individual pieces of gear have now being often times close to 100 points in a single stat if not over. If my guardian wants 70 extra vitality he swaps out his pocket item, but the fact is, he doesn’t want that extra vitality, he wants the other bonuses from a different pocket item. The place where +70 of a stat not being attached to a piece of gear seems to have a large advantage is on you fourth, fifth, or third stats. By buying tomes in these categories you could potential double these stats, and for our guardian, this would mean power and in combat regen he would have never had without sacrificing something else. The fact is, many people in an out of my kinship despise the store with a passion and would rather quit Lotro then be forced into spending real money on their characters in order to take down a piece of content. If something isn’t possible without these tomes, Turbine would not have put it into the game. Lag, player skill, and coordination, in my opinion, overshadow a 3.5% gain or loss any day.