L-O-L-A, Lola!

November 10, 2011

Opinions

Raise your hand if this has happened to you:

You’re cruising along when you run into a pretty woman/hobbit lass/elfmaid. It seems that you’re both on the same quest chain, and you invite her to join a fellowship. She accepts. You converse via the fellowship chat, and she seems like a very nice woman/hobbit/elf. Not only that, but she seems to be a very competent player and heals/tanks/kills with startling efficiency. After wrapping up the quest chain, she says she has to bail, but tells you to add her to your friend list and look her up if you want to group up again sometime.

A few nights later, you run into the same woman/hobbit lass/elfmaid. She is with a couple of her kinmates and she invites you to join their fellowship. You accept. After a quest or two, one of the fellowship members posts in the chat, “We’re about to run GS. Want to come with?”

Since you really don’t have anything better to do and it never hurts to have Moria tokens, you say, “Sure.”

The four of you PUG the other two members and hit instance join. While the captain is casting the group buffs and the minstrel is setting their tale, your friend—the pretty woman/hobbit lass/elfmaid—lights up the voice chat, and you hear in a dark brown—and decidedly male—voice, “I just want to check and make sure everyone’s headphones are working. If you can hear me, blink once.”

Dude Looks Like a Lady

If you believe everything you hear or read on the interweb (because it is never wrong, of course), the stereotypical MMO player generally fits into the following demographic: male, 25-40, morbidly obese, unemployed, lives in his parents’ basement, subsists off of stale Dorito’s and Mountain Dew, and has never touched a girl, much less kissed one. I’m sure that there are some people who fall into that description, but the fact of the matter is that MMO gamers come in all shapes, sizes and backgrounds. The only thing they have in common is that they have access to the internet.

I guess I need to back up for a second: LOTRO is the first MMO I’ve played. I have friends who play WoW, Star Wars: Galaxies, Everquest and the like, but I was never into MMOs. You see, I have a psychological aversion to paying a monthly fee to play a video game. Yet I was somehow suckered into signing up for the LOTRO 10 day free trial and running around with some guys I used to work with. They have since stopped playing, abandoning me to the wilds of Middle-Earth, but that’s another free therapy article for a later time.

At first I was surprised by the diversity of the people I’ve encountered playing LOTRO. I think it’s safe to say that the majority of LOTRO players are male, but I’ve run into many couples who play together—sometimes with their children—and more women than I had expected. While the players are generally male, I think there is far more gender balance among the character population, which means that there are a bunch of guys playing female toons.

So what makes a player choose to to roll a character who is a different gender than they are in real life?

In LOTRO, since there is no female dwarf option, if a female player wants to play a dwarf, she has no choice as far as her character’s gender goes. But there are a gazillion women, hobbit lasses and elfmaidens cavorting about from Erid Luin to Dunland, and I know for a fact that a good chunk of those are being controlled by male players.

For purposes of full disclosure, the majority of my toons are female, although of my four level 65+ toons, two are male and two are female. Also for the record, in real life, I am male, over 35 but not yet 40, slightly overwieight (damn my wife’s fabulous cooking and Krispy Kreme!), gainfully employed, and I only hang out in the basement because my wife gets tired of listening to me yelling at the TV during football season and berating hunters for “accidentally” pulling targets that we’re not ready to kill.

I can’t speak for anyone else, but these are the reasons why I play female toons.

It’s All About the Avatar’s Ass

When I rolled my first toon, I picked a female elf. At work, I sit next to a guy who plays MMOs and he asked me, “Don’t you worry that people will think you’re a chick?”

I just shrugged, because I really don’t care, and I also figure that the first time I get on the voice chat, it will solve any mysteries about my gender as a player.

My rationale is simply this: If I’m going to invest hundreds, or even thousands, of hours playing a game and staring at an avatar’s rear end, it may as well be hawt.

Every other explanation I can come up with is simply rationalisation, but it all boils down to my avatar’s tush.

Seriously, the next time you log on to your “main” character(s), type “/played” into your chat line. I’m a pretty casual player, but I’ve got 4 toons who are level 65+ and each one has three to five weeks of play time on them. That means I’ve probably got 500-800 hours of game time in per character. And that doesn’t include my lowbies I’m leveling up, storage mules and crafting alts. Last week, in our kin chat, we were comparing /played time and there was one guy who had logged three months on his toon. Everyone else was averaging around a month to six weeks on their main. Now think of the people you run around with in-game: Which of them do you think has invested the most time into playing LOTRO? (It may even be you!)

Do you think that person wants to stare at an avatar that’s not nice to look at? Do you want to stare at an avatar that’s not nice to look at? I don’t.

It did not surprise me that there are a large number of female toons out there roaming Middle Earth. In fact, given that the playable (free people) races in LOTRO are human or mostly human-looking and the avatars are more realistic looking than say WoW or EQ’s, I kind of suspected there would be more female toons than male toons. After all, if you believe in the image of the above-mentioned stereotypical gamer, it also explains why comic book women look like this, this and this, and why this will make a nerd boy think he’s died and gone to Heaven. (All images are safe for work, but may not be suitable for children who like to ask question or your significant other’s temper).

I don’t mean this in a juvenile way, but if we accept that there are more male players in LOTRO than female players, it stands to reason that guys want to play a toon they find attractive, and some guys will roll a female toon just because she’s easy on the eyes.  If this is the case, do female players have an interest in rolling hunky male toons because they find them attractive?  Please leave a comment below if you have an insight into this.

Escapism

I grew up playing role-playing games. Big surprise there, right?

The entire point of D&D, Star Frontiers, Rifts, Shadowrun, Macho Women With Guns, GURPS et al is to spend some time pretending to be something you’re not. Maybe it’s a Zentraedi-busting Veritech fighter jock. Or maybe you’re a fireball-throwing magic-user who can melt anything that gets in your way. Or perhaps you always wanted to be a cyborg that packs enough firepower to level a city block just by sneezing. Or maybe you just want to be able to recite the words, “In the name of Robert of the House Baratheon, first of his name, King of the Andals and the First Men . . .”

MMOs offer that same basic experience, only combat doesn’t take two hours for five turns, there are no power-hungry DMs who just want to kill the party and no rules-lawyering co-players who quibble over all the minutiae. MMOs are generally set in fantasy realms because that’s what players want. Which also explains why there are no wildly-successful video games based on The Office or Ally McBeal. Jedi, barbarians, hobbits, night-elf Mohawks, comic book super-heroes, Master Chiefs, zombie-hunters; whatever the setting, a computer game inserts the player into a character that they are not and a setting that is fantastical and completely different from their reality.

So why not cross gender lines when you generate a new toon?

When I would roll a D&D character, sometimes I would choose to play a female because a couple of the guys who used to DM for us really didn’t know a lot about girls (we were 14, give me a break!). So I could flirt and tease and do all sorts of things in-character and the DM would let me do it (mostly because he/we didn’t know any better; sorry to rat you out, Jason!). I literally got away with (role-playing) murder because my character had boobs.

For those who are in to the role-playing aspect of LOTRO, playing an opposite gender toon may be a way to interact in the fantasy world in a different way than you’re used to. I’m not big into the role-playing side of LOTRO, but for those who are, please leave a comment below and let me know whether you play opposite gender toons and how this influences your RP experience.

Cosmetics

My lovely bride laughs at me every time she passes through the computer room and sees me playing one of my female toons because often they have a different outfit on from the last time she saw me playing. Whenever I look into the shared wardrobe, I am reminded of the absurd amount of time, energy and fake money I have invested in outfits. I have one mule toon that has a vault full of unbound cosmetic items that I just can’t bear to part with.

When I go shopping for my own clothes, I will try one one pair of khakis and then buy three more of the same size and style, with a little variation in colour. When I was teaching high school, my students used to keep track of how many different combinations of the same five pairs of khakis and ten polo shirts I would go through before I would wear a duplicate outfit. I have exactly four pairs of shoes: a pair of loafers I wear to work, a pair of tennis shoes, a pair of Tevas and a pair of steel-toe metatarsal boots. That’s it; There are literally more virtual shoes in my LOTRO wardrobe than I have real shoes in my real wardrobe.

So what would make me spend 7 gold on the ridiculous-looking rabbit ears? (aka-Winged Circlet). Or some exorbitant sum on the Gossamer Dress?1

I really can’t explain it, but for some reason, I want my avatars to look good. And I don’t mean simply hawt, and not just the female toons.  I realise that character appearance is largely a matter of personal preference, but I think it just so happens that many of the cosmetic outfits look better on the female avatars than the male avatars.

During all of the festivals, I check out the newest cosmetics and bust my toons’ collective rear ends to accumulate enough tokens to get a full set of the cosmetics that I like. Some of it looks good on both the male and female toons (the snow-dusted set from the Yule Festival being my favourite), but for the most part, I think the various cosmetics look best on the female avatars. And when the metallic anniversary tokens were dropping during the anniversary festivals, I ran out to GV every time I got 5 ancient gold tokens until I got the short-sleeved elven dress out of the gift box. I even have an outfit I swap into when my character is farming. You can stop laughing now. Seriously . . . stop laughing at me.

Yes, it seems silly to invest so much energy into dressing an avatar when I don’t spend near that much energy dressing myself, but that’s what I do. My buddy from work plays WoW and he told me that they don’t have any sort of cosmetic system2, but thought it would be something fun in PvE only zones.

A Double Standard?

The biggest question I have about playing a different gender toon is: Do people treat female toons different from male toons?

I know that I refer to toons as to their gender, not their player’s. So I will talk about Vraeden needing to complete her class quests, or that she just got a badass songbook that has five major legacies on it and one minor, and I will say that Voontak got his Prized Angmar’s Free Peoples Steed and how he is now a Master Westfold Tailor. I also expect other players to refer to my female characters as her/she, although if they’re talking about me, they should use the male pronouns.

This may be where it is wholly appropriate to divorce the name of a toon from the name of a player. Many of my kinmates and in-game friends refer to me as “Vraeden”, because for a long time she was my “main” character and even when I’d alt, they’d still call me “Vraeden” (or “Vrae”) on the in-game chat or on Vent/Teamspeak, regardless of what toon I happened to be playing. This is due, in part, to the fact that I don’t give out my real name to other players, even to my kinmates and in-game friends. The only people who call me by my real name are the handful of players I know in real life3. How you play is your business, and I think in some kins, the members know each other by their real names, and in others they don’t and call each other their in-game names4.

I also try to treat players all the same, regardless of their gender or their toon’s gender. I would like to think that when I encounter a toon, I accept them at face value in the way they present themselves. If they’re a hobbit lass or male elf or dwarf, more power to them.

Maybe it’s because I don’t log on to an MMO to flirt or get dates, but I’ve got better things to do than try to impress toons whom I think may be a different gender than me. After all, if I group up with you, the only thing I want out of you is to heal/tank/kill and help me complete quests so I can collect tokens/symbols/bling. That’s not to say I mind encountering female players5, but if we’re in Sammanth Gul and you’re a tank who can’t hold aggro or a healer who dials the Meter O’Suckitude all the way up to 11 (as opposed to simply being lousy), you could be Jessica Alba or Lucy Pinder and if you’re the reason why we’ve wiped six times in a row, I will still boot you out of my group if a more competent option comes along.

The guy I sit next to at work has a simpler philosophy about player/character gender: He assumes that every player is a guy unless he hears a female voice over his headphones. I can’t say that’s a bad approach, and it certainly keeps him out of trouble, but that just seems to me to be a mite bit stereotypical (see above).

I guess the people qualified to answer the question of a double standard would be the female players. If you’ve played male toons and female toons, do other people you encounter randomly—who don’t know your gender as a player—treat your toons differently based on their in-game appearance? I am very interested to hear your answers.

Willful Deception

One issue I (unfortunately) have to bring up is when male players intentionally try to portray themselves as female players. I don’t think this happens very often, but I’m sure it does. With voice chat, it’s pretty easy to distinguish the gender of a player the second they say something, but the fact of the matter is, when you interact with another toon, you don’t know who is actually sitting on the other keyboard6. I don’t know why a male player would want to portray himself as a female, unless he was trying to get other male players to simply give his female toon stuff. I guess he might get his rocks off by making another player think that he’s a girl, but who’s to say that both aren’t male players trying to be something that they’re not?7.

How do you guard against stuff like this? First of all, don’t log on to an MMO looking for love. I’m sure there are some instances where people hook up through the game, but frankly, I don’t see the point. Or you could just do what my buddy does and assume that all players are guys until you hear their voice over your headphones.

There has only been one instance when a guy hit on one of my female toons. I had just started up a lowbie and neither of us had the voice chat turned on. We were around the ruins at Dol Ringwest and he started sending me tells asking for my real name and where I lived. I told him that I didn’t give that info out in-game. At that point, a couple of goblins spawned right next to where he was standing.  He wasn’t expecting a kind of Spanish Inquisition because he was flirting with me.  They attacked him, and I let him die instead of healing him. I never got another tell from the guy again. Aside from that time, I can’t ever remember an instance when another player seriously mistook me for being a female player while I was playing one of my female toons8.

More Than Just a Pretty Toon

Maybe this is a credit to the LOTRO player base, but it seems to me that players generally treat each other with a great amount of dignity and respect as far as gender goes, even in PUGs or raids, and are more concerned with another player’s competence than their in-game appearance or who the player is that’s controlling the raid’s healer9. And although there is certainly an element of juvenile behaviour and trolling (especially in GLFF) for the most part, I think the player base of LOTRO is generally more mature and less into childish antics than in other games10.

So that’s why I play female toons. And I don’t think I’m the only one.  I go back to my basic MMO philosophy of “play what you want to play, the way you want to play it” and if you like playing guy toons, girl toons, or dwarves, that’s your business.

As always, all comments or other insights are welcome in the comments below.


  1. I paid money for these when I was a lowbie and hadn’t advanced the epic story enough to earn the campaign marks necessary to barter for them at the skirmish vendor.
  2. This probably has a lot to do with the PvP system in the game. After all, out in the Moors, cosmetic outfits are disabled so that the creeps can get a good look at what you’re wearing before they decide to 1v1 you. I’m sure they don’t care when they’re zerging loners, but if they see someone dressed up in the most badass raid armour, they may think twice before trying to take you out solo.
  3. I also make it a point to never ask someone for their real name, even if I consider them to be a close, personal in-game friend. Sometimes, they’ll let it drop or tell me outright, or it’s part of their character’s name, but I think people play MMOs to escape reality (see above) and to an extent, adopt a persona that they project to the virtual world, and if they aren’t going to volunteer their real name, it’s only polite to go along with that when you interact with them.
  4. As a side note, I think it’s always a good idea to refer to people as a “common” name in kinchat or when you’re in Vent/TS/Mumble, especially when it comes to altoholics. After all, if you can have up to 17 toons per server, then it might get confusing when you encounter the one guy in your kin who makes up 10 percent of the membership.
  5. I especially enjoy listening to female players from Australia, New Zealand, Ireland, Scotland and Canada; I’m sure Goldenstar can relate.
  6. Unless you know them in real life.
  7. If you haven’t seen the movie Surrogates, in one of the opening scenes, a male controller is making out with a “woman” who turns out to be controlled by fat, overweight man (see stereotype above).
  8. And I laughed my rear end off when he bought it. Yeah, that was mean. So sue me.
  9. Of course, that’s not to say that each of your toons shouldn’t look fabulous.
  10. I don’t know about other servers, but GLFF on Elendilmir can get downright nasty some times. Which is why I usually stay out of the channel unless I need to PUG the last three spots for Turtle or Gatecrasher.
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I was suckered into playing an MMO by some friends and have been stuck around ever since. My "main" is a minstrel on the Elendilmir server, but I'm a pretty casual player who likes a good raid every now and then. My healing skills are spectacularly average, and I am known as the Elf Queen of Lousy Healing to my friends. I like long walks on the beach, puppies and mowing down orcs by the dozen. If you see me in-game, say hi or send me a tell. You can also email me or follow me on the Twitter.

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103 Responses to “L-O-L-A, Lola!”

  1. Stephan Says:

    P.S.: If you want to play a game, where you can change the gender of your avatar, try this one:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_Nebular_and_the_Cosmic_Gender_Bender

    I had alot of fun playing it (20 years ago)
    As a joke I gave the box to one of my colleagues sitting next to me at the office. He found it so funny, that he put it onto the cabinet between his and my desk at work, so at times people notice at at start wondering about it…very funny! It’s in front of me and I can look at it every day. (-;

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  2. Tony Says:

    Personally, I just think the female characters in these games tend to be a lot less ugly. For humans in LOTRO I’m not sure it’s as notable, but the setups for male Hobbits in particular just don’t do it for me.

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  3. Farnum Says:

    I play both male and female characters.

    I like to think of every character as part (or a combination of parts) of my personality.

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  4. Mirar Says:

    > If I’m going to invest hundreds, or even thousands, of hours playing a game and staring at an avatar’s rear end, it may as well be hawt.

    I’m happy to hear that other people reason like this as well. :)

    I’ve been called gay for having female toons in WoW. I haven’t quite figured out the rationale for that…

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  5. susan Says:

    I have both male and female toons, mainly to see what the avatars look like and the various costumes they each wear. However, my mains are all female (I am female) and I am uncomfortable playing a male avatar to any extent as it just feels weird to interact with other gamers who assume I am male in real life.

    its also super uncomfortable to have a girl flirting with my avatar though its totally understandable as he is a flippin hunk. lol I always have to set the facts straight or just not group with others to avoid the confusion. I dont see how others can play another sex to end game due to the role playing involved or the friendships you make in game, but each to their own

    *shrugs

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  6. Saelyth Says:

    i’m 21 years old and turbine Male toons seems 40+ or 50+ toon, so instead of seems old i rather to play as female.

    anyway when you play a roleplay player as mine’s that is a character of another phantasy world simillar like LOTR, it doesn’t matter if you are a guy or a girl, you just want to honour that character because she rocks.

    P.S. Saelyth is a serial killer in rage for vengeance from Nigberion’s Legends books.

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  7. Shaidde Says:

    This is interesting. I’ve heard the ‘I have to look at that butt for *days*, it might as well be attractive’ explanation before. I hadn’t realized that many guys who played girls characters got into more than the occasional cosmetic item though. That’s actually kind of cool.

    I generally assume that all the girls I meet in game are women, and I think any of the girls that I’ve chatted with in game totally were. There might be more girls in LotRO than you realize? Also, I’m pretty gullible.

    Is it possible that boys assume that girl characters are boys, but girls assume the opposite?

    Anyway, to your questions: I’ve played as boy character’s in games before–some games you just kind of have to and on others it can be neat to see the difference in story from the boy perspective. When I do play a boy I would like them to be attractive–but usually kind of smooth and not the type of Man I like IRL? I like burly guys who are funny and strong than me, but if i played a guy I’d rather he was an Elf or like Link or something.

    Oh, and if the character’s voice acted? Totally can’t play a boy. It’s too weird. Like DA: Origins, I played a boy mage 2nd playthrough and it was fun. Tried on DA2, and it icked me out by the time we got to Kirkwall.

    By default I always play a girl first if it’s an option, and I can’t imagine playing an avatar for a length of time in a game with others as a boy, but I absolutely see my avatar as an extension of myself in a game like LotRO and not so much a separate character.

    Anyway, thanks for the explanations and the questions. This was a good article and gave me some insight. I’ll still assume you’re a girl until you tell me otherwise when I meet your girl character though. =)

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    • Mirar Says:

      Actually, I always play female characters, but my girlfriend plays both genders. I’m usually taken to be the female in our relationship, and she’s taken for being the male. Neither of us mind. (I also have an easier time getting closer to girls than males, while she’s the other way around. Why that is so – no idea, really.)

      As a rule, I always call people by the gender of their character – if it’s a female character, I call them ‘her’ or ‘she’ even though I know it’s a male, and the other way around. It’s simpler that way…

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  8. Belandwen Says:

    I was pretty upset reading this article, every bad stereotype out there that female gamers have to deal with was trotted out. I did not comment initially because all I wanted to do was massive damage, not provide constructive commentary :)
    I played in SL for a long time, and lots of dating goes on there. Much angst about who are “real females”, etc. If you are bumping virtual pixels then it may be germane whether you are a sitter or a pointer. Otherwise, it really has nothing to do with playing a game.
    For MMORPGs, what is between my legs has ABSOLUTELY no bearing on how I play any class. If my character is a female, you can call her ma’am – including my very female dwarf! If my character is male you can call him sir, and since we are not going to exchange any bodily fluids at any point then the sex of the typist is not an issue.
    And if you are staring at your avatar’s ass, then you probably have a camera setting issue.
    If you are just making “hawt” female avatars to ogle, then it is not gaming it is porn.

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      Vræden Says:

      I think the difference between an environment like Second Life or The Sims Online and LOTRO, World of Warcraft, Everquest et al is that the environments of SL or SO are specifically designed to reflect the daily living of most people. The worlds of Azeroth and Middle-Earth are decidedly fantasitical, and they also have the element of combat built into them. Because of that, players are usually more concerned with grinding for raid gear than grinding virtual pixels with an attractive avatar.

      As I said in the article, I do not play LOTRO to hook up, either in a virtual or real world sense, so I don’t care who the player actually is (male/female, white/black/brown/green, gay/straight/transgender, etc.) provided that person is polite and can heal/tank/kill as the group demands.

      My point with the piece is that I think people like to play toons that are attractive (male or female), and for some guys, that means playing female toons. I don’t sexualise my toons (I don’t know of anyone who does) or think of them as anything other than instruments of destruction to be used against the forces of Mordor; if all I wanted was to ogle something on a computer screen, there are certainly enough options out there on the internets that don’t require paying a subscription fee (and plenty out there that do).

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  9. Haldare of Gilrain Says:

    Well for me it boils down to the Lara Croft syndrome where as before tomb raider I’d never played as a female and to be honest was quite taken with the idea until after about 20 second play or was that 10 lol
    Like I’m sure many players do like there toons to be a representation of themselves in game there is always room for something different and new. I have seven characters and only my latest is a female. I haven’t questioned myself why other than I wanted a cool race of man hunter,champion, a dwarf guardian, elven Rk & Lm and of course a hobbit burglar. I found I fancied rolling a captain and already having two men thought why no have a nice lady cappy and be able to wear all those cool cosmetic costumes that’s available. There is no other reason just that I didn’t have one and it was something new to try out, and why not?

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    • Haldare of Gilrain Says:

      Having just read thru my post I noticed that I’ve said that ‘I was quite taken with the idea of playing a woman’ well that should have read ‘ I wasn’t quite taken….’ With the idea.
      Ok now that’s cleared up! 8-)

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  10. Saelyth Says:

    anyway, in an MMO it doesn’t really care if we are Boys, Girls, Young people, Old people, if we can walk or we need a chair, if we can speak, if we are deaf…

    in an MMO everyone is the same as the others, we all are “players”, and when i’m looking for a group to do any instance i’m not looking for a group of “girls” or a group of “boys”… i’m looking for a group of Players.

    i don’t know if i got the wrong idea, but in an MMO, the real world has nothing to do there.

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    • Ariadneth Says:

      Totally agree! I guess the whole idea of Vraeden was to try and get an insight of players and their choices, in this particular case about its gender. For the comments I saw here one might think many people do care about the gender choice but at the end, it should not do any difference (unless you are really looking for something further than the game itself).

      Gladly in LOTRO, on the play level, there are no differences between male and female characters (no different statistics, etc) which is a common limitation in RPG games and can deprive male players to create female characters.

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  11. Ben Says:

    “… guys want to play a toon they find attractive, and some guys will roll a female toon just because she’s easy on the eyes …”

    That’s pretty much it. Like you said, if your character’s backside is going to be front and center on your screen for hours at a time, it may as well be pleasant to look at.

    That apparently applies as much to the developers as it does to the players – one of the reasons I play female characters is I can’t stand the way Man men run, it looks ridiculous. Each race/gender has some animation issues here and there, but the rigidity of the Man run is very distracting to me. So I have a feeling the developers spent more time focusing on the way females move, which stands to reason if there are a lot of male players making female characters.

    This is my first MMO too, though I have roleplayed for years on MUDs. I’ve played dozens of male and female characters on MUDs, but most of my favorite characters have been female. Again, and not in a sexual way, but if I’m going to be reading a virtual book or watching a virtual movie about someone, it’s often more interesting to me if that person is female. Not always.

    My wife doesn’t play male characters on MUDs or LOTRO, so perhaps for (some) women it’s more about putting yourself in your character’s shoes than being the character’s observer. To each his or her own.

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  12. Atyngy (Crickhollow) Says:

    My buddy started creating female characters when we were playing the Matrix Online. In that game, wearables could be male or female only, so with one of us playing as a female, we could always split the loot between us. I guess it just stuck from there.

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  13. Vroya Says:

    Me and my wife often play together and play all types of duos. Each of our characters have different personalities and histories behind them. We often play twin sisters, brothers, and reverse mixups – simply for the fun of doing it. The only duo we haven’t done yet is a dwarf couple – chicks with beards are just a wee bit too far left-field for me. We are both altoholics and have a pretty even mix of each gender. It makes for fun gameplay and really interesting conversations – especially when using pronouns.

    Our game life is totally separate from real life. In the “real world” there is no gender-bending or desires in that direction. In the game we’re just having fun, making a story within the confines of “The Story”. Our friends may giggle a bit – but we have fun with it.

    As far as the cosmetics issue – I also love dressing up my avatars – and the females do have the advantage there – men in-game as well as in-life simply don’t have the same customization options as women do.

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  14. DemureDiva Says:

    I’m female. I rolled a male guardian specifically to advance the personal plot line for my female main. He happens to be her brother & occasionally, I even log twice & play both of them together. Now, THAT is strictly for RP purposes, but I do a lot of pretty involved RP with a small group of folks, most of whom have at least two characters with pretty deep back-stories. We have a BLAST. And almost all of us have characters of both genders.

    I think it’s a natural part of the human condition to wonder & even try to figure out what goes on inside the heads of the opposite gender. Let’s face it, those of us who are straight are simply fascinated by the “other.” :)

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  15. Pickles Says:

    In my opinion LoTRO’s male Hobbits, elves, and Dwarves in general do not look very attractive no matter how the appearance is configured at character creation. Male Hobbits look creepy, male elves look too long-faced and effeminate (I know it’s supposed to be that way while still ugly proportions-wise) with odd body proportions, and I never got into dwarves, sorry :P
    One thing I’ve always read and heard as I grew up in my home country is that female MMO characters tend to receive relatively more help and benefits from male players. I am not sure that this is true in LoTRO but I have noticed a general trend in online games that female characters are treated with more respect and good manners (I might be just imagining things). At the end of the day, to each his/her/their/its own.

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  16. Diavir Says:

    I know this is completely irrelevant but this got the song stuck in my head all day lol

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  17. T Says:

    Great article and comments – I’ve enjoyed reading through all this. I find the psychology of gender absolutely fascinating, and while that’s certainly not the main reason I play LOTRO, the game has made me think a couple times. For background, I’m female, bi, and play with my gf – who rolls all female toons – and her bf, who rolls all male. (My bf isn’t into MMORPGs, alas.) I currently play two female and one male toon. I haven’t noticed a difference in the way my toons are treated (my male toon did get a little “newbie” abuse when he started out and the girls didn’t, but that was probably coincidence), but I have noticed a difference in how *I* interact while playing my male toon, especially with my gf. As well as a fun opportunity to give the more masculine aspects of my personality some airtime, it’s also an interesting way to spotlight my own preconceptions about how males or females “should” behave; no matter how hard you try to avoid gender-based bias, there’s plenty of it that has been so deeply instilled by society/culture/upbringing that it seems intrinsic until you call yourself on it.

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  18. Bolfus Says:

    Great article. Aside from the reasons stated above I play many females toons. However, I was reluctanct to start, even though my brother had informed me that regardless of what kind of interaction you have, other players are typically kinder to female toons than male toons (i.e. free stuff). What happened is that the oldest of my three daughters once asked me, “Dad, why don’t you ever play any girl characters?” So I thought, other than my own insecurity I don’t really have an answer. So I let her help me create a toon and never really looked back. So now instead of a list of male avatars I have a pretty even mix. I also read above about another player who had a female dwarf. I tried that for quite some time, maybe 20 levels or so, but just couldn’t keep it up. I am glad to see someone else tried the same thing and I hope had more luck then me.

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