Mordor or Bust released a crazy amount of screenshots (233 to be exact) from the LOTRO Free to Play Store today. The items and prices are what’s currently in the beta and are subject to change but are interesting to peruse that is for sure!
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July 21, 2010 at 12:09 pm
I’m now slightly worried about F2P for the first time. Some of the items under healing seem like they have the potential to become “required” for anyone wanting to participate in group content (especially endgame). The temp buffs to morale and power, the “stone of revival”, and the potions that provide morale HoT (assuming they stack w/ food) are specifically what I’m concerned about. I would really hate to not be able to join a raid b/c I refuse to spend real money to buy a buff and the raid leader believes that it is necessary.
July 21, 2010 at 12:30 pm
I share your concern but only if it is known for certain these items won’t also be available via in game means. Like scholars getting these new recipes or barter vendors selling them or something.
July 21, 2010 at 12:30 pm
I wouldn’t get too worried until we actually see how this plays out. I really doubt we’ll see anything in the store that can’t be acquired in some other fashion.
July 21, 2010 at 12:33 pm
Crafters being able to make these items and buffs would certainly relieve my concern. I hope you are both correct in your guesses.
July 21, 2010 at 1:29 pm
Looking at the items they all have different naming. I assume they are additive to what is there already in the game. I’m sure I read somewhere on a post that some items will become drops in game and that the T6 crafters would not be affected.
TBH sometimes there is just not enough time to grind (gold or matts) for the required raid items and in those odd cases getting some from the store to help out may be nice. I am a lifetimer so I have my 500 points per month to play with.
But I do agree that Turbine must not remove the main sources of gold for players that put the effort in.
July 21, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Any bets on the next hobby? Judging by some of those “golf” emotes …
July 21, 2010 at 2:00 pm
the morale and power boost can be purchased now through destiny points. The ICMR/ICPR pots are very interesting especially if they stack with food. I would suspect there to be scholar recipes as well, likely through one of the new reputations.
The permanent stat buffs are very interesting. I don’t think +30 is game changing, especially at cap when you are subject to diminishing returns, but it could really give people the flexibility to try different builds with their characters.
July 21, 2010 at 2:07 pm
Golf as next hobby? Now that is game-breaking…
July 21, 2010 at 2:23 pm
How do you figure that? Bullroarer himself invented Golf when he knocked Golfimbul’s head off of his shoulders and into a rabbit hole.
July 21, 2010 at 2:22 pm
Nothing in the store really bugs me except for the faction mounts. It seems unfair to me that someone can just buy the Lothlorian horse I spent a long time earning. But maybe the $20ish price won’t make them a common sight.
July 21, 2010 at 2:24 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCjuFpQ3EeA
I wouldn’t count on it.
July 21, 2010 at 5:55 pm
I wonder if there will be a “Dressing Room’ feature included in this stuff as well.
/ponder
July 21, 2010 at 6:28 pm
I sure hope so!
July 22, 2010 at 12:02 pm
I agree. I am not going to bother spending points on something if I don’t know how it would look. Seems like they will have to add that feature, otherwise there loot wont sell…
July 22, 2010 at 12:41 am
I am honestly not that bothered by what’s in the store. Yeah, if I were to do it it would be a little different, but nothing major. In terms of the pricing, I am very upset. New players are not going to see the high prices and first think that “oh, VIP is such a good deal”, they are going to freak out and decide they are not going to spend
1000$ on a game.
Personally, I think that if I am not going to. Get retroactive points, the “loyalty” rewards should cover half of the so-called fluff aka stat tomes and storage upgrades and character slots. Looking at this, loyalty points is nowhere close.
This game is not worth the cost of 10 other games, and I plan to become a super-casual explorer in the game, as opposed to what I used to be, an ardent source of advertising for the game. (my gamertag used to be bestmmo=lotro for more than 2 years).
I have already bought 2 other games and re-subbed to WoW. At least there’s no pay to win over there.
July 22, 2010 at 4:43 am
I am always impressed when people are able to predict the future like you do. I’m taking a note, “Pay to win” is it from fall onwards. Thanks for the information, Erirdar!
July 22, 2010 at 9:13 am
Your sarcasm frustrates me and I am now going to attempt to write something that does not come out as garbledegook.
First off, in my opinion, turbine have said that all the items that could give an advantage will be available both in the store and in-game.
It does not matter how they bind the items that are in-game or from the store, simple economics will tell you that turbine points will have a relative value in in-game gold. Every player will have this in their mind when they decide whether to grind something in-game or buy from the store. Hmm, that rep Item would cost me 40g because I am not even at acquaintance yet and I would have to buy x y and z barter items in huge quantities. Now, is 40g worth ___ number of turbine points? Let me think.
It is irrelevant for the purposes of a pay for in-game gold exactly what is in the store. Even if there were only 1 item, it would still be gold buying.
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July 22, 2010 at 10:23 am
That’s leaving aside the fact that TP costs actual, real world money. Not everyone wants to blow their paycheck on pixels.
That being said, the beta is ongoing and things could change before launch. It might actually be, I don’t know… prudent to actually wait and see what shakes out this fall before getting too excited.
Even after launch, nothing is set in stone if the community has enough of a problem with it.
July 22, 2010 at 12:37 pm
Wow – I guess posting screen shots from the Beta isn’t a violation of the NDA? I thought you weren’t even supposed to admit you were in it.
July 22, 2010 at 12:39 pm
Mordor or Bust got special permission from Turbine to leave these photos up for people to look through. NDA wasn’t broken (at least not on purpose)
July 22, 2010 at 12:39 pm
Ah. Nevermind. I see in the OP that it is a violation of the NDA, but Turbine has okay’ed it as a one-off.
July 22, 2010 at 1:02 pm
I am dubious of the store. Turbine is going to do what it can to make as much money off of us as possible. That is their primary goal, always has been, always will be. As is the primary goal of all for profit companies.
However, they will need to balance the pressure they put on player to buy stuff with keeping the level of enjoyment up and keeping customers. I will wait an see…if I don’t like the changes, if it makes the game less enjoyable for me, if I start spending alot more money just to play. I will have to take inventory of my priorities and will likely go elsewhere. If however turbine/WB finds that magic balance, and I hope they do, I will stay and the store may actually improve the game. Nothing I have seen scares me yet.
July 22, 2010 at 1:33 pm
Does anyone know if the skills return to bree, return to rivendell, will be available to all classes? If so it kinda nerfs the primary reason I still play my hunter, which is to farm mats and quickly assist kinnies in need.
July 22, 2010 at 1:57 pm
Dreadhed – Anyone who “knows” how they work actually can’t say b/c of the NDA. However, I seem to remember reading something about this a long time ago on the forums (looked, but couldn’t find it) and I was left with the impression that these skills would work like the racial travel traits (only transport the character) and that they would share a CD. Again, I could be pulling that out of thin air. I do NOT have any special knowledge, just a vague impression.
July 22, 2010 at 3:27 pm
I thought as much. Durn NDA’s
Like my return to mirkwood map, using the same cooldown as my return home map I think. Definately some interesting items in the strore. Will be curious to see how they play out.
July 22, 2010 at 4:33 pm
I think you can get the one for Thorin’s Hall on Live from the rep vendors in the Thorin’s Hall rep area..
July 23, 2010 at 6:24 am
I hope you all are aware that ports to Bree and Thorin’s Hall are already in the game, available for every class, right now? In addition to the more-commonly-known ports to Mirkwood and Ost Guruth that is.
Keep cool, hunters.
July 23, 2010 at 11:31 am
I’m less concerned with how this is going to affect grouping/combat/endgame experiences and more with the damage it is going to do to the player economy. LotRO is pretty low on the player-driven economy spectrum, compared to other games, and it looks like some items that are key cash cows for some players are going to be available on the F2P store.
Now my feelings bar those (like me) who intend to keep their sub and avoid spending more money at all costs, but even those of us who are “VIPs” will get Turbine points to spend. So what if we want to spend our “free” points on things like dye instead of buying it from the auction house? If a lot of players do this then those scholars who make money in this way are taking a pretty big hit.
The same goes for festival rewards: if they are cheap (as they appear to be) who wants to earn them? Worst of all, if they are available year round, what happens to that industrious few who actually try to play the market and sell Lithe Fest items in the winter when they’re unavailable? It won’t matter because everyone who wanted one picked it up for 75TP months earlier.
Again, there will be many players who will still earn this extra stuff in-game, that is to say properly, but most players going for convenience will not. My first reaction is that this is going to finish off an already weak player economy.