We have a special mid-week episode for you where we talk with Minstrels Moondog, Harperella and Mortermeer (Bryandt).
This is a roundtable discussion where we talk about tips and tricks for playing a minstrel. We discuss healing. warspeech, traits, legendary items, skill rotations and more! None of us were PvMP experts but do not fret, we plan to have PvMP roundtables in the future!
We had a great time talking to these folks and we appreciate them sharing their knowledge with us! Hope you learn something. I know I have some new ideas I plan to try with my Minstrel!
June 18, 2010 at 1:13 am
No, folks, that’s not Gomer Pyle. That’s me. Say true. Say sorry.
June 18, 2010 at 1:21 am
And the max morale trait I mentioned was Enduring Morale, not Tempo of Bravery.
http://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Enduring_Morale
June 18, 2010 at 5:51 am
To wade in on the Dwarven minstrel side (obviously!
) here are three great reasons for dwarf minstrels-
Endurance of stone: +75% common, fire and shadow damage mitigation for 10 sec (this soo underated PvE)
Dwarf Endurance: 50+ vitality to the fellowship for 10 minuites
They are a freakin’ Dwarf!!!
(I could go on all day, but you’d all die from boredom!)
Great episode guys, I like these round tables, it is really usefull hearing ideas, and similarities and differences between play style.
June 19, 2010 at 6:41 am
One thing that Dwarves get that’s really appealing early on is the ability to use axes. This falls by the wayside once you get into Legendary Items (sadness) but it is one really cool advantage that minstrels of no other race gets.
June 19, 2010 at 5:35 am
Excellent podcast guy, thanks. I don’t play a Mini, but it’s really good to hear what’s important to them.
One of the great things about Lotro is how different the world looks to the different classes.Gives the place more depth.
Looking forward to hearing about other classes!
June 19, 2010 at 12:37 pm
Was a great listen, I think every time I thought of something I was going to comment on someone else piped up and mentioned it
June 19, 2010 at 6:31 pm
“Oh, I forgot about Elves.”
Good on ya =D
I say this even though I have more elves than any other race >_>
In fact, I only have one dwarf. I think it’s because I always try to make another dwarf but he’s never as awesome as Drilorin.
June 19, 2010 at 8:07 pm
Epic Show! Learned alot about my Mini… Thanks
June 21, 2010 at 8:17 pm
I was quite surprised not to hear more about the Watcher of Resolve trait line. Great threat and power management help in that trait line, plus the legendary trait makes the SoS HoT a fair bit more valuable (particularly when paired with the legendary weapon legacy to boost pulses). Great discussion though, regardless of Watcher of Resolve content
But yes – Fate and Will are king. Will more than fate in this minstrel’s opinion (Will directly affects your outgoing healing rating), but they’re both great (Fate affects your critical heals).
Also…I *love* the idea of using the Gift of the Hammerhand as a penalty for stupidity, thanks for the great idea.
Thanks for another great podcast!
Celeb (Sell-ehb)
Evenstar Kinship, Vilya
June 21, 2010 at 9:24 pm
My kin calls that skill that puts the white sphere around you and trades 2 damage for 1 power an “easter egg” since it’s egg shaped. Tends to get used for doing GS hard mode to trip the one boss within the 10 minute time limit. I’ve seen other classes try it in my very limited experience with GS, and the only one that seemed to be able to do it reliably was the minstrel with the easter egg up.
Do make a champion’s day by easter egging him, in fervour we have probably the highest icpr of any class. Of course, as a consequence we tend to have tiny power pools. So it will finally start to suck when we run out of power and are reduced to auto attacks.
And the champ is often the chap who has to sprint back and try and pull mobs off the healer since we can generate a lot of agro quickly with damage if need be and can take 25% of the healer’s agro immediately and have our yell that temporarily yanks the mobs attention for I think 10 seconds as well.
It’s valid criticism that if we’re in fervour and pull agro it’s our own fault. If we are doing our job right we’re not pulling agro off the tank, we let him get a good head start and then only target his target or the main assist’s target. Good champs get permission for AoE goodness and in 3 man instances it’s always good to know when the healer will need us in a different stance than fervour (say when the boss is doing lots of AoE and dots and everyone has to get healed all the time).
June 21, 2010 at 10:45 pm
Thanks for the great tip about using Lay of Hammerhand for tanking. I will certainly use that next time I duo with my wife’s hunter. I also want to encourage everyone to spread the word regarding Song of Aid. It is an incredibly useful and very underutilized skill. If you run with a kin or other regular group, then give them a tutorial on how it works and when to use it. In my opinion, it should be a well used tool in any high functioning group.
June 21, 2010 at 11:13 pm
Excellent podcast. Almost makes me want to role a minstrel.
My thanks to Golden and Mortermeer for breaking down and healing loremasters on occation.
I shall have to cut down on my silly dying and remind certain folks >.> that LM aren’t squishy when we play for keeps. =D
July 14, 2010 at 2:40 pm
I have a level 65 dwarf minstrel. Who replaced a level 35 hobbit minstrel whom I deleted.
I had good reasons at the time (pre-Moria) for replacing a hobbit with a dwarf. Axe and higher icpr. Plus I just love dwarves. But now I wish I hadn’t done it.
When you get to the higher levels the differences between the races become less important in terms of stats. Gear makes us all nearly equal.
Now that I am finally raiding on a regular basis I realize just how stinking important *play dead* is. Hobbits get an extra. Throw in a weapon with still as death cooldown and you save a lot of grief in raids.
January 20, 2011 at 11:20 am
Just listened to this roundtable (just started a Ministrel Alt) hoping to get some tips about the Skirmish soldiers you guys use, and it seems this is the ONLY roundtable that skirmish soldiers are NOT mentionned!
I’m sad :’(
But still, a good roundtable nonetheless…
January 20, 2011 at 11:29 am
This was our first class roundtable. We didn’t know folks would even be interested in hearing about Minstrels for a couple hours at the time and what they wanted to hear.
It was from this first run that the questions and topics got better with each roundtable. We do have plans to revisit these roundtables as it is Turbine’s plan to focus on some adjustments with each class like the RK and Captain did.
Pineleaf’s articles on Skirmishing with his minstrel may be useful to you.
http://www.casualstrolltomordor.com/2011/01/pineleaf-plays-the-minstrel-the-recruit-levels/
January 20, 2011 at 2:30 pm
As usual, quick and usefull answer
Thanks!
March 28, 2011 at 2:02 pm
lol….
“… most of the legacies for them (Champs) are a potpourri of suck…”
Too funny!
As someone with a 65 Champ, I completely agree…
October 24, 2012 at 8:45 am
I love your class roundtables and was hoping to pick up some tips for the mini I’m leveling, but the actual podcast link appears to be missing. Any chance it is archived somewhere else?
October 24, 2012 at 9:15 am
It shouldn’t have been missing and not sure why it disappeared but I’ve replaced the file to the post.
October 24, 2012 at 5:17 pm
The dungeons round table is gone too, can you replace that too? It’s my favorite one <3
October 24, 2012 at 8:15 pm
Omg it’s back up, thanks soon much